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THYROID
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The
Amazing Program to Help Millions
To Conquer Disease, Fatigue, Overweight and
Depression |
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Karilee H. Shames, R.N., Ph.D. |
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ARTICLES
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ASK THE EXPERTS |
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Questions and
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THYROID CYSTS
NORMAL? QUESTION
Are cysts in the thyroid normal?-- Mary Shomon
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE SHAMES ANSWER
Generally a person with autoimmune (Hashimoto's )
thyroiditis, multiple cysts in various parts of the thyroid gland
pose no threat whatsoever, and should simply be monitored
periodically. The best treatment for the nodules seems to be
optimal treatment of the thyroid condition, and optimal reduction
of its symptoms.
Many practitioners feel that nodules and sometimes cysts, both
byproducts of the autoimmune process, are best handled by what is
called TSH suppression. This means that the patient takes enough
medicine so that the TSH level is at the very low end of the
normal range, or just below. Without much stimulation of the
thyroid gland (because TSH levels are low and therefore not
stimulating the gland) it has a chance to be somewhat quiescent,
getting a rest and begin to repair itself. (August, 2002)
(Important note: All thyroid nodules should be evaluated and
treated by your physician.)
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THYROID-RELATED
HAIR LOSS
QUESTION
Why do thyroid patients lose hair, and
is there anything that you suggest can be done?-- Mary Shomon
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE SHAMES
ANSWER
It is widely believed that thyroid
sufferers lose hair due to decreased metabolism in the scalp
follicles, resulting in early release of the shaft, root and all.
sometimes the hair becomes just too brittle, and there is a great
deal of loss from split ends and breakage. As you know, thyroid is
intimately involved with hair function, witness that early graying
and loss of outer eyebrows, is a cardinal sign of low thyroid in
oneself or in the family.
As far as what can be done, the first and primary step is to
restore full normal thyroid function. Consider that in general the
body's wisdom directs it to conserve energy when possible, from
nonessential areas, shunting repair and regeneration power to
those functions considered more essential. Another mechanism is
that when thyroid function is low, intestinal absorption and
utilization of vitamins, minerals, and other nutritional cofactors
is compromised also. Not only are there not enough of the raw
materials available, but the enzymes and sometimes temperature
required for optimal chemical reactions is lessened.
As to restoring full function, don't be
misled into utilizing the TSH test alone as a terrific barometer
of full restored function. This one laboratory determination is in
no way up to that important task, regardless of what you may have
been told by your doctor or HMO. A great many thyroid sufferers
need more thyroid hormone replacement than most current
endocrinologists are comfortable with giving.
We have seen people whose hair loss is only finally reversed,
after years of unsuccessful treatments, with a fairly high dose of
thyroid medicine, resulting in a very low TSH. Sometimes it is a
mixture of thyroid pills (T3, T4, and/or natural all combined)
that eventually does the trick.
In addition, we recommend a rich vitamin, mineral, amino acid, and
essential fatty acid replacement program. These four categories
need to be well represented, using high quality products to
restore and regenerate normal scalp function via optimizing
thyroid metabolism. No other mechanism in the body has eight
separate layers of biochemical control as does thyroid, each
requiring specific vitamins, minerals, and other cofactors that
would allow a full recovery of function. (July, 2002)
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Still "FEELING
FAT, FUZZY OR FRAZZLED?"...(Despite Thyroid Care?)
Multi-gland imbalance is largely an unsuspected condition. Even
when suspected, it is frequently undiagnosed. When it is
diagnosed, it often goes untreated. When it is treated, it is
seldom treated optimally.
If you would like to hear more about when our new book
FELLING FAT, FUZZY, OR FRAZZLED?
becomes available, and how to get a copy, send an email to
keepmepostedtp@feelingfff.com [You should receive a
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CAUSES OF AN
UNDERACTIVE THYROID
QUESTION
Please explain what happens to your body to cause underactive
thyroid.-- Mary Shomon
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE
SHAMES ANSWER
Although low thyroid can be caused by a variety of maladies, by
far the most common cause of simple hypothyroidism is an immune
system attack against the thyroid-hormone forming tissue (thyroxine
hormone assembly apparatus of the thyroid gland).The reason for
this seemingly bizarre occurrence of our immune system attacking a
part of ourselves is not entirely clear. It can be the result in
part of trauma or infection damaging the thyroid gland, and the
immune system attacking the damaged area as if it were a foreign
invader.
There is also good evidence to suggest that much of the problem is
related to increasing pollution in the air, food, and water,
hormone-disrupting chemicals which confuse the body's response.
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THYROID-RELATED SEX
DRIVE PROBLEMS
QUESTION
What sorts of things -- medicine, supplements, mind and body
approaches -- can be done for a flagging libido?-- Mary Shomon
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE
SHAMES ANSWER
This can indeed be a difficult area, perhaps one of the least
talked-about and most distressing aspects of low thyroid
conditions. because in addition to having the same complex
biochemical aspects that the more purely physical ailments have,
there is often now even more emotional overlay to cope with. Keep
in mind that emotional overlay with a thyroid sufferer is in part
due to the compromised brain function that somehow is linked to
memory loss, depression, and anxiety. These brain difficulties are
known to be a direct result of the lack of proper brain
stimulation by thyroid hormone. We consider this challenge to be
one that begs for creative solutions, as well as the optimal
medication and supplementation.
First of all, if low libido is affecting your life, once again
make sure that your thyroid correction is as exactly right for you
as possible. You may need a different brand of thyroxine, you may
need T-3 added to your thyroxine regime, you may do better on
natural thyroid hormone. If you are already on natural thyroid,
you could benefit from adding synthetic T-3 and/or T-4 added. For
some people, an excellent way to accomplish this is with the
synthetic combo called Thyrolar. This fixed combination does not
serve everyone well, and many do better with two different pill
bottles, one of T-3 and one of T-4, so as to get a more
personalized ration of the two. If you are on natural thyroid and
it is working reasonably well, you still might benefit from
changing brands of natural thyroid. In addition to Armour, there
is Naturethroid, Westroid, the new Bio-Throid, and the old standby
Proloid.
In addition to these medication possibilities, make sure your
vitamin intake is strong. That means: a high quality multivitamin
and multimineral (not from discount drug store); plenty of extra
antioxidants, which help with inflammation of the gland through
eliminating free radicals; extra amino acids, generally a couple
of grams a day of mixed high-quality aminos; to ensure entry of
thyroid hormone into the cells, take a full dose of Omega 3, 6,
and 9 fatty acids. This means adding to your fish or flax oils
some primrose or borage oil.
We suggest doing everything possible to balance your life,
including meditation, exercise, stress-reduction maneuvers,
counseling with the opportunity for safe emotional discharge, and
simply taking time off to do nothing in particular. This program,
with the last suggestions in particular, can be highly effective
in freeing up creativity, or sexual energy, that has been hidden
or locked inside.
As we have detailed in our book THYROID POWER, there are many
other loving actions one can take with oneself and one's partner
to overcome this challenge. An energy-compromised person must
guard her energy carefully, making decisions about where to spend
it just as one must when considering financial expenditures. When
one person has this condition, the couple must work together
diligently to protect their energetic investment, often
necessitating a thoughtful decision-making process that honors the
needs of the unit. This kind of teamwork becomes even more
critical when caring for children, aging parents, or in highly
demanding work situations.
The actual day-to-day spark can be more forthcoming if the
non-affected partner can contribute to re-establishing more energy
flow through supportive behavior, including massaging sore
muscles, reminding the affected person to exercise, eat properly,
take the assorted supplements mentioned, eat nutritionally-charged
foods that work to enhance energy (less and less sugar and junk
food, more low-fat protein and less carbs).
The partner can lovingly remind the affected person of his or her
needs without coming across as demanding or blaming. This can,
under the right circumstances, become an interesting challenge for
the pair. It seems to require the pursuit of romance much like the
playful seduction applied in the earlier courting days of the
relationship. While this can be perceived as a burden to tired
working couples or parents of young children, it is a challenge
worthy of the time and space needed to maintain harmony. If a
person is not in a committed relationship, she or he must be even
more protective of oneself and ones energy, in order to create the
possibility of a more balanced life. The truth is, this is a big
challenge, and one must make very wise decisions about where to
spend time and commitment. (July, 2002)
As it appears on
Mary Shomon's Website Thyroid-Info under "Ask the Experts"
http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/shames-sexdrive.htm |
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Still "FEELING
FAT, FUZZY OR FRAZZLED?"...(Despite Thyroid Care?)
Multi-gland imbalance is largely an unsuspected condition. Even
when suspected, it is frequently undiagnosed. When it is
diagnosed, it often goes untreated. When it is treated, it is
seldom treated optimally.
If you would like to hear more about when our new book
FELLING FAT, FUZZY, OR FRAZZLED?
becomes available, and how to get a copy, send an email to
keepmepostedtp@feelingfff.com [You should receive a
confirmation email within 2 hours. If not, please contact
webmaster@feelingfff.com ]. You will be notified in Spring
'05 of publication.
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STABILITY OF NATURAL THYROID DRUGS VS. SYNTHETIC
QUESTION
Are natural thyroid drugs really less consistent or stable than
the synthetics? -- Mary Shomon
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE SHAMES ANSWER
It is my professional opinion that natural thyroid products are
excellent choices for many thyroid sufferers. Some people do
better on these dessicated animal gland medicines than they would
ever do on any brand or combination of synthetics. Other people do
fine on the synthetics, in fact, some do better on synthetics than
they would on natural thyroid. There is no one best medicine for
everybody; people's metabolisms are just too different.
Regarding stability and uniformity of dose, the synthetic
medicines do not have a corner on the market in this area. Several
times over the years, the Synthroid company has been called to
task for nonconformity and nonreliability of dosage strength. More
recently, Levoxyl tablets have faced the same charge, and had to
be recalled. This suggests to me that stability and uniformity is
an issue with any and all thyroid products, both the prescription
type and over the counter variety.
Considering the tremendous benefit to some patients that natural
thyroid products provide, the uniformity of potency may well be a
minor issue. It has certainly been a smokescreen for the
prescription drug companies to further denigrate the natural
products. What we believe is that a medicine that words really
well, be it Armour thyroid, Naturethroid, or BioThroid, may well
be preferable compared to any possibly more precisely-dosed amount
of a synthetic medicine that doesn't work all that well in your
body.
What we recommend is that with any thyroid medicine, be it
prescription synthetic, prescription natural, or a totally over
the counter regimen, is to realize that optimal dosing is a moving
target - an ongoing process. Keep well aware of your symptoms and
your basal temperatures, along with periodic blood tests, and let
them in combo be your guide as to whether you need a midcourse
correction toward more or less intervention. As we've always said,
optimal health is an ongoing process, not a destination.
Bottom line - if you try natural thyroid and do well with it, the
variability of dose per pill should not pose any significant
problem. If you would like to try natural thyroid because you are
not doing that well on synthetic, don't for a moment let the
dose-variability issue stand in your way. (July, 2002)
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OPTIMAL
SYNTHROID / CYTOMEL COMBINATION
QUESTION
Is taking Synthroid 175 mcg plus Cytomel 5 mcg the same as taking
Synthroid 150 mcg plus Cytomel 10 mcg? Which combination should
make you have more energy and/or affect your TSH?
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE SHAMES ANSWER
Thank you for this question about the dosages of the T3-T4 combo.
The numerical equivalent of T3 (cytomel) to T4 (Synthroid or other
synthetic/generic thyroxine) is not always what is important. The
two dosages that you mentioned are roughly equivalent but some
people would do better on the former, and some on the latter. It
is very individualized how much T3 vs T4 any one person finds
optimal. This is all monitored using trial and error, blood tests,
and basal temperature.
One's best energy and best healing can occur at a wide variety of
possible combinations, depending on your body's individual needs
and how you respond to these different hormones. For this reason,
we feel that the art of medicine is reflected in your
practitioner's ability to help you navigate carefully. There is no
general rule of thumb. We have seen people who do very well with a
smaller amount of Cytomel with the amounts of Synthroid you
mentioned. We have seen others do better with a much higher amount
of Cytomel.
As we've often said, "the proof is in the patient". (August, 2002)
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HYPOTHYROIDISM TESTS AND DOCTORS
QUESTION
What type of tests should I have to see if I have hypothyroidism,
and do I need to see a special doctor, or can I see my general
practitioner?
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE
SHAMES ANSWER
Let us answer the second part of this question first. Thyroid
tests can be ordered and interpreted by several different kinds of
doctors. Almost any GP, internist, or family physician would be an
appropriate choice for initiating a thyroid evaluation. Some
people seek out or are referred to an endocrinology specialist if
their situation seems more complex or more difficult than simple
low thyroid.
Keep in mind that endocrinology specialists are among the most
conservative, often less than enthusiastic about trying something
new and different. They are also often overburdened with
life-threatening diabetes cases, and may not have the time to give
thyroid the attention you would like.
We believe that having an open-minded, curious, and
thyroid-friendly MD or nurse practitioner, or physician assistant,
or any other practitioner allowed to order tests and prescribe
medicine, can work fine as long as you become activated and
articulate in directing your own care.
As for tests, a standard thyroid panel of TSH and Free T4 should
be augmented with additional tests of Free T3 and thyroid
antibodies. If you are already on medicine, and are doing the
tests to determine the optimal dosage, you can drop the Free T4
and the antibodies and simply ask for a TSH and a Total T3 (the
Free T3 is best used for making a diagnosis rather than for
determining treatment).
Also regarding treatment, if you are taking just thyroxine alone (Synthroid,
Levoxyl, Levothroid, or Unithroid) as a single medicine by itself,
and you are not doing as well as you'd like, you might consider
also running a Reverse T3 to see if your T4 to T3 conversion
process has gone awry. (August, 2002)
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CAN BASAL
BODY TEMPERATURE DIAGNOSE A THYROID CONDITION?
QUESTION
My doctor is using my Basal Body temperature as a guide to
determine if I've met my optimum thyroid medication level. I take
my temperature under my arm first thing upon waking for 3 days in
a row and write it down. I have read recently that this is much
more accurate than the blood tests (target range being 97.8 to
98.2), so why don't other doctors use this method? I had never
heard of using he basal temperature until I went to this doctor.
As a side note to you, my basal temperature for the 3 days ranged
from 95.8 to 96.8, though my TSH level at my last doctor was in
the normal range (that doctor has been "fired" by me). Since that
TSH test my thyroid meds have been increased by my new doctor, and
my BBT is still low.
I would like to hear another doctor's opinion on the BBT method of
testing...
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE
SHAMES ANSWER
There is considerable evidence that current tests both for the
diagnosis of hypothyroidism and for the management of a case under
treatment are tests that lack sensitivity and accuracy. Faced with
this situation, in my medical practice and in my second opinion
telephone coaching sessions with patientsof other practitioners, I
absolutely insist on basal temperatures being part of the
equation.
For people who are wondering if their health problems are due
totally or in part to an underactive thyroid, basal temperature
testing is not the only diagnostic maneuver that I use, but it is
one additional piece of data along with symptoms, family history,
related conditions, and signs of abnormality upon physical
examination. For those who have already been diagnosed with
hypothyroidism, the basal temperature test is an additional piece
of observational measurement that helps determine whether a person
is on the right medicine and / or the right dose, along with
considering the response to medication, physical signs (
especially ankle reflexes and skin temperature), and blood test
results.
In other words, the doctor who is suggesting that you use the
thermometer testing maneuver you described in your question is
doing what I would consider a very proper medical maneuver, if
indeed that doctor is also considering the other factors I have
mentioned. Your information saying that basal temperature testing
is "much more accurate than the blood tests" should be taken with
a grain of salt. Like many things, the statement is true for some
people, but not true for everyone.
Therefore, a prudent practitioner and a prudent consumer, will use
as many different clues and pieces of information as possible to
help make the sometimes difficult decision about whether or not to
treat a health problem as a low thyroid issue or , if already
being treated, whether or not to add or change medication or
supplements.
Here is a good example: I generally find out on a first
conversation with a potential thyroid sufferer what is their
present percent of total optimal function that they currently
enjoy. Some people say to me, "Dr. Shames, I'm glad I can talk to
you on the phone from across the country because I'm only feeling
20% of my prior self, but my doctor says my TSH test is normal, so
they are not going to do anything further."
This is a person who should be following their basal temperature,
rather than their TSH. Most likely their basal temperature will
still be low, suggesting a need for further medicine, and I
endorse people going along with that suggestion regardless of TSH
levels.
You asked why other doctors don't use this method. I believe it's
because many of them have not read the 1970s book, Hypothyroidism:
The Unsuspected Illness, by Broda Barnes MD. In this compelling
volume, Dr. Barnes, the granddaddy of the thyroid field, put his
many decades of experience into a succinct and easily-digestible
form. It was here that the basal temperature test was first
explained in proper detail, with the proper rationale and
research. From your question, it is clear to me that you did not
proceed along the exact lines that Dr. Barnes would have most
recommended.
He recommended that you do the morning temperature sampling for
ten days in a row, not just for three. Menstruating women should
start this ten-day period on the third day of their cycle. It is
best to use a basal thermometer, which is more accurate than a
regular oral thermometer. Currently most folks are able to locate
non-mercury thermometers, which we recommend as more friendly to
the environment. This kind of basal thermometer is actually more
accurate for this purpose than any digital electronic thermometer.
Dr. Barnes also suggests that the thermometer not be used orally,
but instead used under the arm, with the person lying quietly in
bed, and the arm comfortably at the side. The temperature is taken
upon awakening, before rising up out of bed for any reason.
Dr. Barnes felt that this test was a check on the most basic
function of the thyroid gland: its ability to regulate the
metabolic furnace of the body, and to control temperature. An
average of ten days is a very useful indication, therefore, of
one's overall thyroid status, and in many people it may well be
more accurate than the blood tests. Temperature testing, however,
is not infallable, and - like any other test - should never be
used alone to rule in or rule out a thyroid condition, or to
dictate therapy. This is simply a good piece of information that
should be used wisely. I use it with every one of my patients who
will do the test, and I recommend to other practitioners to do the
same. It would be a welcome addition to many doctor's thyroid
management regimen.
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SALIVA AND
URINE TESTS FOR THYROID DISEASE
QUESTION
Are saliva or urine tests for thyroid disease accurate? -- Mary
Shomon
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE SHAMES ANSWER
It is our contention that the saliva tests for thyroid are not yet
as reliable as the saliva tests for female or adrenal hormone
levels. The technology is more recent, and the technical problems
are still being worked out to the satisfaction of careful
practitioners.
Any new tests are worth a try as part of your overall diagnostic
regimen, which should also include appropriate blood testing
(insist on the Total T-3 test and not TSH being the primary
indicator), regular basal temperature testing, and close
monitoring of changing symptoms.
The urine tests, on the other hand, have a longer history of
reliability and effectiveness. This is especially true if the
tests are done at high-quality laboratories such as Vitamin
Diagnostics in Cliffwood Beach, New Jersey, or especially the
Broda Barnes Foundation in Trumbull, Connecticut. We have seen
people whose blood tests were reported normal by top-name
conventional laboratories only to finally obtain the diagnosis and
treatment they have long needed when the hypothyroidism finally
showed up on the urine tests.
In summary, we recommend the urine testing if a simple blood test
shows normal and you have significant symptoms, low basal
temperature, family history, or associated illnesses. (July, 2002)
As it appears on
Mary Shomon's Website Thyroid-Info under "Ask the Experts"
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Still "FEELING
FAT, FUZZY OR FRAZZLED?"...(Despite Thyroid Care?)
Multi-gland imbalance is largely an unsuspected condition. Even
when suspected, it is frequently undiagnosed. When it is
diagnosed, it often goes untreated. When it is treated, it is
seldom treated optimally.
If you would like to hear more about when our new book
FELLING FAT, FUZZY, OR FRAZZLED?
becomes available, and how to get a copy, send an email to
keepmepostedtp@feelingfff.com [You should receive a
confirmation email within 2 hours. If not, please contact
webmaster@feelingfff.com ]. You will be notified in Spring
'05 of publication.
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MEN VERSUS
WOMEN WITH THYROID PROBLEMS
QUESTION
What is the percentage of men versus women with thyroid
deficiencies?
DRS. RICHARD AND KARILEE
SHAMES ANSWER
According to studies, which present varying statistics, out of
every 10 thyroid sufferers, approximately 7 to 8 are female. It
appears that this difference is related to the fact that thyroid
conditions are autoimmune in nature for the most part, and that
women tend to have more autoimmune illness. The reason might be
related to the more complex reproductive system, and continuous
hormonal and inflammatory changes during monthly cycling. (August,
2002)
As it appears on
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Still "FEELING
FAT, FUZZY OR FRAZZLED?"...(Despite Thyroid Care?)
Multi-gland imbalance is largely an unsuspected condition. Even
when suspected, it is frequently undiagnosed. When it is
diagnosed, it often goes untreated. When it is treated, it is
seldom treated optimally.
If you would like to hear more about when our new book
FEELING FAT, FUZZY, OR FRAZZLED?
becomes available, and how to get a copy, send an email to
keepmepostedtp@feelingfff.com [You should receive a
confirmation email within 2 hours. If not, please contact
webmaster@feelingfff.com ]. You will be notified in Spring
'05 of publication.
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